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Li Tiger
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:06:00 -
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+1 for option to remove animation |
Li Tiger
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Posted - 2013.06.06 07:17:00 -
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What a fine response!
dev know how many had it with shaky camera while warping and therefore gave us the option to turn it off. Now, for us this gate aninimation without an option to turn it off. This to me is completely incomprehensible!
But I'm going out from devs answers and come back here every week (hope dev come to their senses quickly) and update my definitely still great dissatisfaction for not having an option to turn off this animation. |
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:27:00 -
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Huang Mo wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Actually, due to the nature of how this effect is coded and linked to game mechanics, an "animation off" button is likely to be extremely difficult to code I am not interested in speculation about how the code is implemented or in an discussion about development. I am just genuinely curious about where you have your insight in the implementation from ?
^ ^ ... Heard heard! Same question from me? |
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:59:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I work in IT as well, but more to the point I used to spend a lot of my time working on fairly involved mods for various games. In the SciFi genre if you've ever played a Homeworld mod I probably had my finger prints on it somewhere.
So because of you working in IT and have modded then you know this is very hard to change .... thanks, needless mess more here. You have answered the question .... you know absolutely nothing about this problem in EVE is difficult to change. |
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:06:00 -
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Rainbow D'tara wrote:Normally MMOs that don't have jumping animations get hordes of people begging for it. HarHar Yep, no problem here. Just fill in and change what you want! But plan ahead and make it possible to choose. I do not understand we have to have these types of threads each time ccp choose to change something that worked ok pre patch. I understand it even less when I find out ccp apparently just bulldozed various complaints about this problem when they tested it.
According to this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3148609#post3148609
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Li Tiger
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:37:00 -
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It would now be nice to see a proper response from ccp in this thread. Do not just say that CCP Bunny Virus response in this thread:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Giovannui wrote:The new jump animation introduces too much lag when multi-boxing. is there a way to turn it off? If not, please give us the ability to use the old system again. there is no old system anymore Is the only answer we get to this problem.
For me it's becoming a bit of a Gamebreaker. I planning to hold a play pause and stop my payment for my 3 accounts until ccp come to their senses again. Do not misunderstand me I'm actually quite fond of EVE. I just can not keep this animation out. I think it is over done at all points and this includes also sound power which seems high above all other sounds.
If I do not see a reasonable response within the next few days I put my accounts on break. There are other good games out there that I can spend money and time on.
And no, no one can get my stuff since I hope to return again - hopefully very soon! |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:28:00 -
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Maybelater Headache wrote:Maybelater Headache wrote:CCP, make the new animations optional.
Good Lord, let the dumb trolls go elsewhere. Bump. ccp we can soon get a more comprehensive answer to this issue?
Many thanks in advance! |
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:27:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Wading into a can of worms I'm sure, but here goes.
We ARE looking at this and considering what we can do. The back end system used by the client has changed which makes a "turn off" not a real proposition. We are looking at ways to reduce the nausea reaction some players are experiencing through other means.
It would be helpful if we got feedback about what in particular during the jump sequence is causing the most difficulty
I am sorry for those adversely affected,. Thank you, thank you very much for your reply. There you just saved ccp payment for at least my 3 accounts, at least for a while until I see what you find out. Now I know that work is in progress.
First, no need to worry about getting poured a bucket of "poo" in the head. At least not from me. I do not have an anger problem. EVE is your game so I just wanted to know if I had to find new games to throw my time and money on. I would be very ambitious to this for a while but I will survive well enough.
Maybelater Headache wrote:Finally...rubber boots!
For me it is
- the camera swing, no control about how "close" my view is. If i only could...zoom out i would be fine probably.
- length of the animation- try to imagine you are doing *at least* 100j a day where awareness of what is around you is a must - Endless repetition. Have fun. ^ ^ Maybelater Headache said it...same stuff goes for me!
Maybe ccp code it so that when you are zoomed out to a certain distance, you will only experience a "waarumm" sound like now, just dim voloume little - too high right now.
So ... starting gate "waarumm" ... "pop" end gate, no more fancy glitter! |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:46:00 -
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Nery Nebu wrote:Doh i came back to eve with odyssey just because of the lovely new scan and jump animations.
EVE is a GAME and not a Excel Spreadsheet !!!! If you can't stand flashy Game Graphics stop playing games !!! I can't believe that still there are a minority of players who want eve graphics from 2003.
I really hate people who always complain about new things in eve.
Stop complaining or stop playing games, choose wisely !
Nope you came back to eve only to write this post here!!!!!
And I really hate people who do not read just a few of the posts before they absolutely have to come up with their bland post. No one has said that they want your stuff removed but want an option to stop it.
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sakura Addiction wrote:i like the new jump animation~~~lol Same here. Good for you so keep the fingers away from the option button when the change is made the option is probably default ON .... problem solved! |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:59:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Maybelater, I realize you are doing your best to bump this thread as often as possilbe in an attempt to make removal of the new effects seem to be a wide spread demand, but outside of those individuals experiencing disorientation it's simply a matter of taste... and those that don't like it appear to be in the distinct minority. "sigh"... I wish I had the same insight so you seem to have. One day I might be able to afford a crystal ball like yours!
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Li Tiger
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Posted - 2013.06.14 13:38:00 -
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Siresa Talesi wrote:Can I look away or open another window? Sure, that's what I try to do. But it is annoying to have to do so, and frankly, not safe, especially if I'm in low or null, as my attention is away for a few moments after the jump.
Spot on, the same concern I have. I have not played eve much the last few days now. I have kept me in high and performed tremendously boring lvl. 3 missions. I would now otherwise have made GÇïGÇïsome lvl. 4 but then I have to move out to low where my agents are. |
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:23:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Giovannui wrote:The new jump animation introduces too much lag when multi-boxing. is there a way to turn it off? If not, please give us the ability to use the old system again. there is no old system anymore I don't know how much more clear you can get. Sounds to me like they had to code the replacement for the loading screen directly into the game engine, and they can't uncouple it now. Okay another one of those "sigh" ... you are a programmer, I assume! I myself am old programmer. I stopped when it was made GÇïGÇïso that when something is coded, it can never be changed or altered again ... hope you can see how silly this is what you write. It was changed, of course it can be made back, change or add to!
Maybelater Headache wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: It was revealed at one of the conventions a while before the patch, to thunderous applause.
That happened on fan fest. So what? Oh, so neatly caught! thumbs up lol |
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Posted - 2013.06.16 09:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I'd be willing to bet that they hardcoded that transition right over the old load screen.
At least, that is my estimation of what "there is no more old load screen" seems to mean.
And if that's the case, they're not getting that back. I will not make me wise on how they have programmed it. But one or ccp should NOT ever tell me it is impossible to encode an option! It can be very difficult but it is nothing else than this ... Thus time and money. If so ccp choose it is not their time and money's worth then there's not some belching from me about this, it's their game. So I'll think of other things to spend my time and money on. That's it! I obviously do not want to play a game that bothers me.
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Posted - 2013.06.16 09:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Li Tiger wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I'd be willing to bet that they hardcoded that transition right over the old load screen.
At least, that is my estimation of what "there is no more old load screen" seems to mean.
And if that's the case, they're not getting that back. I will not make me wise on how they have programmed it. But one or ccp should NOT ever tell me it is impossible to encode an option! It can be very difficult but it is nothing else than this ... Thus time and money. If so ccp choose it is not their time and money's worth then there's not some belching from me about this, it's their game. So I'll think of other things to spend my time and money on. That's it! I obviously do not want to play a game that bothers me. Well, if this does make you quit, hate to trot out a tired old trope, but can I have your stuff? Seriously, idk how much programming experience you have, but I'd wager if you thought about it you'd come to a similar conclusion as I have, that coding a 3 dimensional movement model's physics isn't as easy as throwing out some HTML now and then. I'd wager they worked on the tunnel animation for MONTHS. If not longer. It's not like just changing the stats on a ship, where it goes back to a class reference, this is a bit trickier. Do you read at all what I slices before you knock a new post in! ... "sigh" |
Li Tiger
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Posted - 2013.06.17 08:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Also, you mean the same "programmer" who said this? Quote:Do you read at all what I slices before you knock a new post in! ... "sigh" Yeah, not putting any stock in him, just sayin'. Code isn't Legos. You can't just take out a block and put another block back that's about the same size, and the whole thing holds together. So lay off the code monkeys already. Had not intended to have more to do with you. But now when you get personal you get a final input from me. This even though I realize you probably do not read what I write.
Actually programming IS actually a lot like lego. That you say differently tells a lot about you! You builds up, it's not good enough so you remove some bricks (red: Jump animation). Or add some new bricks on the outside of the old behemoth (Jump animation).
As of now when ccp hopefully encoder (builds ... like Lego, Did you get it!) An option to turn off this animation.
You did not read what I warped Lately so here we go again (maybe I'm lucky you read it this time): I am aware that it could be a difficult task to do but no more than that. It is then up to ccp if they want to spend their time / money on this problem. I will not complain about if they do not want to change it, it's their game. But I want to know it asap so I do not have to pay unnecessary.
I can only wonder that you make such a radical change in one part of eve which is SO important without a backup plan or just bite the bullet and in the first indstands have done it as an option. If ccp not make a satisfactory change, I can only stop my payments and find other games to spend my time on. Hopefully I can then come back one day when ccp might come to their senses!
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:quote 1. More to the point, they've already said that they can't get rid of it quote 2. The title of this thread is asking for it to be removed. Half the posters of the first 15 pages are asking for it to be removed. 1. I would LOVE to see that quote. Not because I want just this back, may well be something completely different. For my part ccp can encode a black screen.
2. What the heck?!? Have I completely missed what is written in this thread?!? . . . I started reading from page 1 again. . . it could be me that something was wrong with!
. . . Mmm! nope - once again are you reading as the wind blows! After reviewing page 1 again it was more than obvious! No one, not even the OP has written something about only removal. Even the title can not be read as OP only wants a removal.
In my vocabulary is "Can we turn off" as "can we have a option" .... usually when you turn off something, then there is as far as I am aware also an "ON" position.
What I could see from page 1 were many fanboys attempt to obscure over a serious problem.
Here at the end. I realize ccp looking for employees and one can clearly read here that you are fanboy and it's totally ok with me. But you could not well leave this thread so it not derail - and just submit an application to ccp on the old fashion!
I think the thread is too important to be patch with various supportive entries now when it's about something so important. |
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:20:00 -
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Geralden wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I see someone's instructor never taught them about orders.
Changing the backbone of the server and the game engine is much more difficult than just changing stats around on ships and weapons. If they wanted to, tomorrow they could add exactly 100 shield HP to every ship in the game, it's a simple reference class.
Imagine a house of cards. A big one. A large amount of interconnected pieces each holding up the pieces around them, depending on an overall specifc order to maintain it's integrity, and form the desired shape.
The different levels are the orders of code functions, the lower the level, the more the code above it relies on that low level to support it.
The game engine is the cards at the very lowest level.
To take apart a bulding made of Legos, you can simply pull the top off of the bottom, change the bottom how you see fit, and put the top back on without effecting anything else. (I own about $2,000 worth of Legos, btw, best toy ever invented).
But to change the lowest level of a house of cards? Not so easy, every slight movement can shift the cards above it, and if you do it wrong, it all comes tumbling down. O Really.... If you build it, then you can change it. It may not be simple, but hey... that's why CCP should answer this thread, not YOU.
^ ^ SO nice! Spot on - just what I mean! |
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Posted - 2013.06.19 06:19:00 -
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Could we get an update ccp - how is it going and what have you intend to do? I totally gone back to only skill training and I'm not going to just make this for much longer. No anger and no bad feelings just want to know what I should do, stay or cancel and maybe come back when and if ccp have made GÇïGÇïa satisfactory (for me!) Solution. Best solution for me would be an option to turn off the animation. Instead you can for my sake insert a blank animation such as black screen. |
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:23:00 -
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c4binfever wrote:I love the new animations. Im not the only person to have a little poop in their pants everytime i jump... right? If your poo poo is missing for some reason one day ... I would be happy to send a bag of vomit as a substitute. Just tell me and I will take 10 quick gate jumps only for you! . . . My gift to you - your lucky beast! . . . |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:26:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:Alorae Cloudwalker wrote:I've still got some time left on my subs, so I'll be patient and train. Not sure what I'll do beyond that. Can I encourage you to keep one account? And to check in once in a while? If, say, <10% of the player base quit over this, it won't matter much to the company. They will just replace us with noobs who will happily spend a few years mining in high sec or whatever. And the camera swing + halt will be here to stay. On the other hand, if we stay at the top fo the forums until the next expansion, I'm betting that it will eventually get annoying enough to warrant a dialogue. The more people quit, the weaker our case becomes. The absent are always wrong, as they say. Sorry, but i cancel soon my 3 accounts due to lack of update from ccp. 7-14 more days and if no update from ccp I'm out. Creates currently only skill training, this is unsustainable, this is not the manner I want to play eve.. Hope then I can come back sometime over time if the gate jumping annimation become optional or some similar. |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:30:00 -
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bump ... Sorry but this is front page material! Any update ccp? |
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:00:00 -
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lack of interest / update from ccp about what is happening regarding this problem has now caused me to cancel my 3 subscriptions. They expire then on 2, 8 and 18/7 - so I have some time yet. Hope the issue will be resolved by then, otherwise I will return the day ccp hopefully correct the problem.
I only do skill training here which is not the manner I want to play eve on. Instead I enjoy to play "XCOM Enemy Unknown" for now ... great game imo! After this I probably ambush CIV ... This game will simply NEVER get old for me! |
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Posted - 2013.06.24 22:45:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:This was roughly my mom's policy regarding her microwaved fish: you'll eat it and you'll like it too! thanks for the laugh. . . Very elegantly described!
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:03:00 -
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Aldap wrote:
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CCP please say something that we at least know you're on the issue. Because it is indeed an issue. The animation just hurts the eyes.
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To be fair so here is a little support to ccp - you probably missed this: Dev respond
But then no more support from me here! Most want an option to close and it's not exactly what ccp want to make, based on what they have written, so maybe they have lost interest and therefore it is now a very long time since we've gotten an update.
They are probably going to look at the problem but I am afraid it is only a cosmetic change which will be made GÇïGÇïif indeed they are doing something.
I have now canceled my 3 accounts. Not because I'm angry or anything, but why would I support a game which so much bother me. As I've written quite a few times before, I just hope ccp come to their senses over time and I can return. |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:30:00 -
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bump..bidi...bump! |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:09:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Here we go again.
We ARE looking at this. We are in the process of tweaking camera and FOV changes occurring in jump tunnel, the pre and post tunnel camera work as well.
no eta yet, as this is a slow process - especially with summer upon us and various people going on holidays.
Thanks for the info update. I've decided I need an off option since I do not want to see an animation here without it is a still image with perhaps a "Jumping" on, or something like pre patch.
But great ccp makes a sound again here! Hopefully there will be an off option one day, just as we got on the cam shake. If this comes I will come terrible back to bother ccp again .
My main here expires on 2/7 so I do not expect a miracle before then ... so from here shall sound a; Have fun and fly safe boys and girls! o/ |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 20:59:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Just a thought - why am I not getting requests to turn off the warp tunnel? How do you get; "off option for the animation" to only cam movement?!? When I write animation, it's warp tunnel AND cam movement! I think you read it as you hope it is - I guess?
If there oddly enough can not be made an off option so I can live with this (without cam takeover):
Mr Pang wrote:It's easy, leave the anmiation but make the screen fade into black, and then fade back into the game.
no vomiting capsuleers, and you still have your precious animation.. done ... but damn you'll get a bucket of poo from all the others from the other side of the "fence" If you are doing this! But maybe it's not such a bad idea ... so there will be many from the other side who also want an option possibility
As I read this (and many thanks for your updates) then I think it gets distant prospect with I come back to eve ... but I'm a born optimist so I still hope ... for a miracle! |
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Posted - 2013.06.27 06:31:00 -
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Will people stop saying the tunnel is not a problem! It is a huge problem ... dammit! Suddenly there is apparently few now seems the tunnel itself is a problem?!? I do not know about you but I find myself that I will have to look anywhere else when I gate jumps than on my screen.
Warp tunnel is quite simply tremendous over made!
Cam overtake AND Tunnel animation is a problem ... at least for me it is!
Just an idea for ccp. Next time ccp displays such an action on your Fan celebration so please only use your allways huge positive feedback as a friendly pat on your shoulders. Please do not use your fan celebration as a guide to implement stuff!
Damn this is a FAN party ... ccp can bloody ads a presentation and then come and just strike a fart and go again. There must be bloody hell no higher science to this that just that FART will receive a huge ovation as if right here came the world's best presentation! |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:14:00 -
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^ ^ Ops, it was that tunnel he is referring to! Thought he meant gate tunnel .... my mistake.
And as for what you write here, I can only agree. Give me that tunnel - this I could live with. But an off option is now still clearly preferable! |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:35:00 -
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Maybelater Headache wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: I'll probably catch on to that one when you learn the difference between making constructive posts to prove your point, and making personal attacks to hide the fact that you don't have one.
Why so angry? Ranger 1 I just think that MH might be just as tired as I am of all of your attempts in this thread to get ccp in speech, concerning a hiring!
I do not understand why you constantly overwhelms this thread with your support for devs with all sorts of excuses and chitchat about why ccp can not do this or that! You know as well as I that it may well be made. The question is whether ccp want to spend time on the problem - alluding here on an off option. It can be time consuming but no more than that - period! |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:37:00 -
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EDIT: double post - pardon! |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:03:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I quite like the new jump animation thingy.
Of course I also remember when CCP proved their hatred and contempt for the players by dooming EVE to die within a couple of months by changing the font. Thanks a lot for your support of player base!
What matchless contempt to show. How on earth could anyone have voted for you. It's damn beyond my comprehension?!?
But good for you it straight in the eye at you and there is - as said (if you read some of the thread) no one wants to take your new shiny eye-candy from you, maybe you could then strain yourself up to support a off option! |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 08:57:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:It's here to stay get used to it.
Destination SkillQueue wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Malcanis wrote:I quite like the new jump animation thingy.
Of course I also remember when CCP proved their hatred and contempt for the players by dooming EVE to die within a couple of months by changing the font. Can you do anything else but troll here? If not, put a sock in it. To be fair it's really hard to resist when you read about people being such weaklings or act like every minor game change destroyed their game. I'm certain it truly sucks for the affected people and it's fair to ask for the animation to be looked at and try to be improved upon. It's just that there is a limit to what normal people can sympathise with or even take seriously for that matter and it's truly hilarious to see some people being such drama queens about it. Normally I never answer obviously in troll attempt, but by reviewing your real lack of empathy and human understanding, I had just come up with an answer when I really feel sorry for you. You need some help - maybe a psychologist can help!
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:26:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Giovannui wrote:The new jump animation introduces too much lag when multi-boxing. is there a way to turn it off? If not, please give us the ability to use the old system again. People are bragging about the old LOADING bar for years. Now the have what the want and now its lagging people well you`re ****** pc. Well no sorry that will be not happening. yea yea yea ... yada yada yada! You should immediately take some valium before you get a heart attack! It might be a better idea just to support an on / off option and you still get this you want to keep, then you may not need your medication. |
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